How to win with 1 queen vs 1 rook.

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SriyoTheGreat

Is it possible?

REVANOFCHESS

Yes. All you have to do is fork the rook and king with your queen and then you win.

davidjddo
REVANOFCHESS wrote:

Yes. All you have to do is fork the rook and king with your queen and then you win.

Easier to explain than to achieve. For me, it's the hardest endgame. Try it against the engine. It's no picnic.

SriyoTheGreat
davidjddo wrote:
REVANOFCHESS wrote:

Yes. All you have to do is fork the rook and king with your queen and then you win.

Easier to explain than to achieve. For me, it's the hardest endgame. Try it against the engine. It's no picnic.

Sure, thanks

ChessDude009

Yes. All you have to do is fork the queen and king with your rook and then you win.

Chessflyfisher

The book "Secrets of Pawnless Endings" delves into this at great length. There are some "fortress" positions that the person with the Queen must try to avoid. Time pressure in an OTB game has even forced GMs to agree to a draw in matches.

Kyobir
ChessDude009 wrote:

Yes. All you have to do is fork the queen and king with your rook and then you win.

You can also skewer... Or pin if the pin is diagonal

davidjddo
d4iscrazy wrote:

It's quite difficult to mate with the queen... however the main goal should be to reach a Philidor position (1777 I believe)

So, treat the queen like a rook. But there's no pawn on the board. Can you show me or link me to the Philador position with queen vs. rook without the pawn? I'm studying this because someday I'll get to play endgames. happy

SriyoTheGreat

Tysm for replying to my forum guys. I have some idea about philidor but being able to get to this position is beyond my current limits. As a person who has studied the basic openings I felt it was crucial to start endgame study. Idk for some reason I thought 1Queen vs 1Rook will be the starting point after basic endgames of the king alone but turns out there is a lot to learn. Now I know I should have started with pawn endgames or opponent having minor piece endgames. Hope I'll reach this level one day.

davidjddo
d4iscrazy wrote:
davidjddo wrote:
d4iscrazy wrote:

It's quite difficult to mate with the queen... however the main goal should be to reach a Philidor position (1777 I believe)

So, treat the queen like a rook. But there's no pawn on the board. Can you show me or link me to the Philador position with queen vs. rook without the pawn? I'm studying this because someday I'll get to play endgames.

The rook Philidor position is different than this one; this is the position I'm talking about and I'll annotate how it's winning

 

Wow! I need to relearn my triangulation skills. Thank you so much!

H2OisHIJKLMNO

https://www.chess.com/lessons/master-endgame-checkmates. there is some chess.com lessons they might be helpful.

leominhlam
You have to fork diagonal to rook
leominhlam
Long ago, I play with my mom and I thought the queen and king is the rook protect by king