Is chess a SPORT?

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spikestars

not in australia lol

kleelof
spikestars wrote:

not in australia lol

Right. Here is an Australian sport:

Uhohspaghettio1

No chess is not a sport. That's a marketing tactic, a fairly effective one but a lie. 

Chicken_Monster
MuhammadAreez10 wrote:

Chicken_Monster wrote:

MuhammadAreez10 wrote:

 

richb8888 wrote:

How is chance involved in chess? Now please don't say that moving first is luck.

Chess is primarily skill, but there can be an element of chance, or "luck," if you will. A human can't calculate all possible permutations that might occur down the line 40 ply. Not even Carlsen. Two equally skilled players may both play their best, but Black, for example, might make a decision that turns the tables on White 20 or 40 ply down the road. Neither player could be expected to see that far ahead. Therefore, Black may end up in a better position because of path(s) one or both players took, although upon analysis it seemed right at the time...but in hindsigh, the path really led to a better position for Black which could not have been forseen without a supercomputer and the best software (or perhaps not even with technology currently available.

Chicken_Monster
MuhammadAreez10 wrote:

Chicken_Monster wrote:

So if fun and amusement define sports and hunting is a sport...let's see...then serial killing (hunting humans) is a sport?

Hunting and serial killing involve fun and amusement, but for only one party I'm pretty sure.

Is morality a factor?

Give it up Kasparov. Chess is a game, like backgammon.

Kasparov no longer plays professional chess!

I know. "Give it up" can be an Englsih expression that may mean "give up your argument, you are losing the argument [Kasparov]." Not that we actually had an argument. I am not telling him to give up chess. he did that of his own accord some time ago.

Chicken_Monster
rdecredico wrote:
LongIslandMark wrote:

I'm sticking with the usage that has been in place since the 1500's - Sport involves a physical or athletic effort.

Re: chance/no-chance - a game does not have to involve chance - tic-tac-toe has no chance, backgammon perhaps the best mix of chance and skill, etc. So whether chess has any chance involved or not I don't see as relevant.

So, when you play chess, do you move the pieces with psychic powers or do you actually PHYSICALLY move them?

 

Yes, I have that ability. It is mentally straining and I squint, so it is a sport Tongue Out?

When I am breathing and my heart is beating I am enjoying it and it is physical activity - another sport?

Benzodiazepine

Chess is not a sport.

It is, purely, a game.

Iluvsmetuna

It's a board game sport.

Iluvsmetuna

Chess players will never figure this out, best obviously to look up the definition. Kind of like wondering whether cement is viscous or solid.

Benzodiazepine

Cement is a powder.

Iluvsmetuna

Exactly what I was talkin about.

Benzodiazepine

I have worked with cement and mixed concrete ever since I was 9 years old.

I know the drill, trust me.

Benzodiazepine

Yeah, lunch-time!

Uhohspaghettio1

I hate Kasparov. He's everything wrong with chess. 

1) Going around promoting chess in the schools as if it's some kind of educational achievement. I'm all for chess, but chess is not something scholastic. It doesn't make you smarter or increase your memory, don't believe in superstitions.   

2) His political activities that are borderline irrational. It's okay to be pro-west and anti-Russia. But going around saying Russia isn't a democracy, comparing Putin to Hitler etc. And the west can do no wrong itself. His twitter account is a mass of wild rantings against Putin and Russia and pro-West. It's frankly bizarre, whatever your opinions are to the east/west divide.   

3) This is more something I dislike than a real criticism. I dislike how he quit chess while he was still number 1 and with a rating of over 2800. Not even once in a while? Seems clear that his rating mattered to him more than anything in the world and he can't bare the idea of going into the 2700s. He could just be honest, nobody's going to judge him for losing ability. Now it's just an illusion he's in the 2800s. If he quit outright like Fischer and all affiliation with chess that would be fine, but he wants to have his cake and eat it too: going around promoting it to schoolchildren, writing books about it and doesn't even bother playing at all himself unless he's assured the opposition is at least 500 points lower than him    

toiyabe
Uhohspaghettio1 wrote:

I hate Kasparov. He's everything wrong with chess. 

1) Going around promoting chess in the schools as if it's some kind of educational achievement. I'm all for chess, but chess is not something scholastic. It doesn't make you smarter or increase your memory, don't believe in superstitions.   

2) His political activities that are borderline irrational. It's okay to be pro-west and anti-Russia. But going around saying Russia isn't a democracy, comparing Putin to Hitler etc. And the west can do no wrong itself. His twitter account is a mass of wild rantings against Putin and Russia and pro-West. It's frankly bizarre, whatever your opinions are to the east/west divide.   

3) This is more something I dislike than a real criticism. I dislike how he quit chess while he was still number 1 and with a rating of over 2800. Not even once in a while? Seems clear that his rating mattered to him more than anything in the world and he can't bare the idea of going into the 2700s. He could just be honest, nobody's going to judge him for losing ability. Now it's just an illusion he's in the 2800s. If he quit outright like Fischer and all affiliation with chess that would be fine, but he wants to have his cake and eat it too: going around promoting it to schoolchildren, writing books about it and doesn't even bother playing at all himself.     

Wrong 3 times out of 3, congrats!

jack_iles

"Chess is everything: Art, Science and Sport"- Anatoly Karpov

Darth_Algar
LongIslandMark wrote:

I'm sticking with the usage that has been in place since the 1500's - Sport involves a physical or athletic effort.

So if I go for a jog around my neighberhood I'm participating in a sport?

Iluvsmetuna

Karpov may have been taking the mickey {ASS is Art Science Sport abbreviated}.

TheGreatOogieBoogie
Iluvsmetuna wrote:

Admittedly I don't play golf. I must have been thinking of that film Happy Gilmore.

An incredible movie.

Darth_Algar
TheGreatOogieBoogie wrote:
Iluvsmetuna wrote:

Admittedly I don't play golf. I must have been thinking of that film Happy Gilmore.

An incredible movie.

"The price is wrong, bitch."