Has Light got a decay factor?

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https://www.independent.ie/videos/world-news/watch-hubble-telescope-discovers-quasar-with-a-brightness-of-600-trillion-suns-37698554.html

A Quasar with the brightness of 600 Trillion suns !! That breaks the laws of physics. Gravitational Red Shift puts it much closer so it doesn't break the law.

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As I read (then said) somewhere else....the average undertongue of the Universe is -270.5 deg C....or about 2 deg of separation from Absolute Zero. These sooperdooper hot tix can't put a temp dent in it. Which btw, can turn ur private part to a popsicle....lol ! 

And my point ?....My point is superconductivity (& subsequent 'perpetenergy' supercurrents) start happening as the penguins gather to muse. Stuff that happens here (sun, sand, & 78) doesn't happen out there as superforces show & grow a lifeform of their own. Recall that He and H start crystalizing from a superliquid at about -271 C...they say anyway. Tho' I'd stop to consider atmospressure. 

....just me. Dr. Lene Hau did some wonderfilled research on how to 'stop' light cold (so to speak) years ago using B-E Condensates.

Here....

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Brain hurts...!

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....don't worry IKTM's. I made most of it up happy.png .

 

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phew...had me going for a minute there lols

Is it a fear of intimacy lola? Do you need another therapy session?

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I had heard Dr. Hau got the SofL down to about 30 mph (w/ boson temps at nearly AZ) in a transporter w/ no viscosity. Then a few years later someone picked the experiment back up and flat stopped it w/ a more efficient superfluid.

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ME fear intimacy ?....howabout my ex-snails ?

....and why do u ask may I ask ?...wanna make a schedule ?

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you don't have to worry about intimacy with me Lola. I think i'm on the Autistic scale somewhere...like most men.

I suppose we could discuss things on the way to the Red Dwarf ?

it's important to get out of the house from time to time...

 

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I GOT PROOF


Let's unpack that a little shall we?

"Here's to my sweet Satan" -Fair enough. If I was a hard core Satanist and I was going to put a satanic message in a song then that's probably something I'd throw in.

"The one whose little path would make me sad" -Hang on. If I'm a happy little Satanist who thinks Satan is sweet then why is he making me sad? Surely Satan would make me happy what with me being a devil worshipper and all. And why is his path little? Who describes anything as a little path?

"He will give those with him 666" -He's giving 666 now? What does it mean to be given 666 exactly? 

"There was a little toolshed where he made us suffer" -A little toolshed where Satan made you suffer? Okay ignoring the fact that referencing a little toolsheds is kind of bizarre, why did Satan make you suffer? And if he did why are you following him? 

"Sad Satan" -So Led Zep are sad on the little path and Satan is sad as well. Why is everyone so damn gloomy? How is this promoting devil worship? Who wants to sign up for Satanism if everyone's so miserable all the time? 

So the message that allegedly promotes Satanism is actually saying that if you follow the Devil he'll lead you up a sad little path into a toolshed where he'll make you suffer but he won't be happy about it. That makes no fucking sense. 

If the accusation is that the normal, forward playing lyrics to Stairway to Heaven are total nonsense so it makes sense as a Satanic message when played in reverse then why doesn't it make more sense when played backwards? Why not write a more coherent message which actually makes Satanism look more promising than just a lot of morose unpleasantness in an undersized hardware storage facility?

The real test (and I've done this) is to play the part backwards to a third party and ask them what they hear without giving them any prior knowledge. I've played it to two separate people and asked what they heard. Neither could come up with anything really coherent and nothing like what the message purports to be. When I told them if they could hear the message that's reputed to be there (i read it to them) they could suddenly make parts of it out. So what kind of message is it if people can't understand it unless they're reading it at the same time? A real message or just a fictional one that relies on the power of suggestion to remain alive? 

If you listen to the song played backwards (and it's all over youtube) you will realise it only works if you ignore certain syllables. There are vowel and consonant sounds which have to be totally disregarded for the effect to come close to working. As a message it requires your own personal mental editing to actually work in the first place.

Finally I think it's worth pointing out that Robert Plant has not only denied this constantly over the last 40 years but he's actually pointed out that he finds the suggestion kind of offensive. Without any evidence at all and using totally debunked theories, people are happy to accuse a guy of being in league with the Devil. Whether or not you believe in Satan and his toolshed there's no doubt that Satanism is not really something that most people would be happy to be accused of. It's got associations with ritual sacrifice and other nasty stuff and it's a pretty hurtful thing to level at a guy who has always been big on notions like peace and love and is definitely not the type to participate in the sacrifice of virgins. People might like to consider this when they make unfounded accusations: you're calling Robert Plant a Devil Worshipper and he's politely asked if you could stop.

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Oh wait... I debunked it...

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hmm....(....what did I say2 bring this on ?)

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https://scitechdaily.com/muse-hubble-ultra-deep-field-survey-confirms-puzzling-result/

Latest Ultra Deep images are causing problems for the BBB (BIg Bang Bollox) .

Also I would just like to point out the number of Elliptical galaxies which are known to be the oldest in the universe. So if the galaxies we are looking at are galaxies from around the start of the universe 13.8 Billion years ago there shouldn't ANY Elliptical galaxies. They should all be young galaxies.

Now if we had a model that said the universe is much older than 13.8 Billion and infinitely larger all the new data would fit with No BBB..... hhhmmm!

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If the universe is several Trillion years old ,as the Unified Model suggests, and that it takes Billions of years for intelligent life to evolve that would go some way to explaining why haven't been in contact yet with aliens.

There is no doubt in my mind that we will find organic life out there. Possibly even in our own solar system.

It's going be in almost every system . I think we can pretty much agree on that. Not scientific proof but if the laws of physics and nature are basically the same everywhere then the universe is teeming with life.

There are supposed to be circa 200,000,000,000 stars in out galaxy. It's taken 4.5 Billion years for 'Intelligent ' life to evolve on this planet. By intelligent I mean they've reached the written language stage.

Dolphins have language and obvious intelligence but they're never going to be clever enough to figure out how to leave Earth.

to be continued....

 

 

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No, but flying fish figured out how2leave Earth !....well, kinda.

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For a bit.

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The latest supercomputers have managed to model, for the first time, Quantum Gravity Loops and it predicts that Black holes send material back into the universe using White holes. Just as Einstein suggested . The Unified Model was partly based on this mechanism to support a Non Big Bang Universe. . So rather than one Big Bang there were lots of Little Bangs to create each galaxy. It also suggests there is likely another dimension where there is no time. But that's my guesstimate/prediction.

https://physics.aps.org/articles/v11/127

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we need some intelligent people on this thread...not you patzer

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So.....the question now is " can there be space without time" ?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72cM_E6bsOs&t=805s

Cosmology in Crisis. Basically the figures don't add up.

However, when the Red Shift is recognised as Gravitational Red Shift and the CMB (Cosmic Microwave Background) is recognised for what it really is ie the remnants of light from the rest of the vastly larger unseen universe then we don't have to invent yet more ludicrous science to explain the fundamental discrepancies of the latest data. Any model that is at odds with new data should be abandoned.

The Big Bang model was formulated on the knowledge of the 19th and 20th centuries . Back then they thought the whole universe was the Milky Way. Now we know there are Trillions of Galaxies.

Is the James Webb going to show us a wall of milky ionised gas at the 'start' of the universe or Trillions more galaxies ? You know what the answer to that question is going to be.