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Ideally, chess.com two player ratings, FFA, and Teams ratings should be similar, where a 2000 blitz player, I would say, has gained the same amount of skill as a 2000 FFA player or a 2000 Teams player. Functionally, this is impossible to line up completely, but we can still try to move ffa ratings to a point where FFA ratings seem to at least vaguely parallel two player ratings. Right now, FFA ratings start at 1500, while normal ratings (typically) start at 800 or 600 or something like that. From a logical perspective, I don't think this discrepancy is needed, as it inflates all ffa ratings far above where they should be. I propose reducing all ratings by 700 points and starting at 800, which I think is much closer to similar skill in normal chess. For example, a 1500 would be an 800, 2000 a 1300, 2400, a 1700, and a 3000 a 2300. While not perfect, I think this makes a lot more sense. Similarly, I believe FFA ratings are above Teams ratings by about 500 points, give or take. I think it should be considered to make their ratings line up more as well. The argument against this is that the current rating system looks better. It is cooler to be a 2000 than a 1300, yes. But I think under the current rating system, players either ignore the current rating tiers versus 2 player chess, understanding they are completely incomparable, or are misled by their rating, neither of which are desirable. While reducing ratings by 700 may make ratings less attractive, I think having a rating system that reflects something that is actually somewhat comparable with regular chess ratings is more desirable in the long run. Thanks for considering, Caleb

Here is a list of known bugs. Feel free to report any bug that is missing here or in a new topic. Posting bugs in the group notes are generally a bad idea since they are easily missed and forgotten. General: Flashing screen. It Switches between showing board and black screen (related topics: 1) Occasionally unable to rewind to start of game (related topics: 1, 2) Castling after captured rook (related topics: 1) Unable to castle when rook moves over checked square (related topics: 1) Some "bugged" games does not disappear from game list (see post#8, related topics: 1) Top games list not sorted by rating correctly (see post#9) Game does not start for some players? (related topics: 1) You should not be able to get paired up with a blocked opponent (related topics: 1, 2) Pieces can 'disappear'. You can't see them, but still move them (see post #27 and #29) UI glitches: Arrows after game still there (related topics: 1) Copy names (related topics: 1) Clock shows 0:59 instead of 1:00 for the player who has the move (related topics: 1) Truncated usernames not fully shown when hovering the mouse as tooltips (related topics: 1) Board size behaves wrong for some browsers (see post#5) Arrows do not resize when resizing browser window and end up on wrong squares (see post#6) Free For All: No rating changes when the top score is equal (related topics: 1, 2, 3, 4) Drawn games does not end (related topics: 1, 2(post #5), 3 ) Unable to move king next to a dead (resigned) king (related topics: 1) Draws should be 10 points for all remaining players (related topics: 1, 2) Dead kings should not be part of double checks (related topics: 1) Teams: A player can be put into 2 teams (related topics: 1, 2) Can't castle while in "check" from partner, or the king's path/destination is threatened by a partner's piece. Stalemate should be a draw, not a loss (related topics: 1) New game board not showing when your spectating a game and a partner accepts your invite (related topics: 1) username in invited player box stays the same and impossible to edit when using a different account on the same computer (related topics: 1) Recent fixes: The bugs mentioned below should hopefully be fixed and no longer be bugs, please report if there are still issues. For all recent changes, see the changelog. Rating ranges now works correctly and is followed 100% (related topics: 1, 2, 3, 4) The FFA/team mode option remember the last selection (related topics: 1) The invite member field remember when made blank (related topics: 1) Removed rounding error bug from FFA ratings

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I make sure this club has nice people. There are tournaments. This club should be fun. There are also puzzles. There are also vote chess.

file:///home/chronos/u-211c8b4075b56747a045de08c7784411d8014ccd/MyFiles/Downloads/Screenshot%202023-06-17%207.58.02%20PM.png rules image top file:///home/chronos/u-211c8b4075b56747a045de08c7784411d8014ccd/MyFiles/Downloads/Screenshot%202023-06-17%208.06.15%20PM.png position image top Stalemate ends with splitting points. The mode is play for mate. 50 checks on a king so that a rook and a king is checkmate.

https://www.chess.com/a/2J85V84BpH3DQ?tab=analysis Both game accuracies are Danny Rensch. do I even need to describe it?

▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ════ ⋆★⋆ ════ ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Suggestion1.- Suggestion: feedback boxes | @HSCCCalebBrown | 20-05-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/suggestion-feedback-boxes2.-Suggestion: Resigning in Teams | @Green_Sleeves | 16-02-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/suggestion-resigning-in-teams3.-Updates to 4 Player Chess | @LosChessquire | 01-05-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/upcoming-changes?page=21#comment-692277474.-Variants Server Suggestions [Post-4PC Merge] | @grable | 25-03-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/variants-server-suggestions-post-4pc-merge?page=15.- Wording of Rules Proposal | @HSCCCalebBrown | 21-12-2021https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/wording-of-rules-proposal6.- Rename FFA & Teams | @HSCCCalebBrown | 23-12-2021https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/rename-ffa-teams7.- A new setup proposal: BYG switch. | @bsrti | 09-06-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/a-new-setup-proposal-byg-switch8.- 11-07-2023 | Proposal: Reduce All FFA Standard Ratings by 700https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/proposal-reduce-all-ffa-standard-ratings-by-700?page=1 @HSCCCalebBrown▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ════ ⋆★⋆ ════ ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬⚔️ All Topics Relevant 4PC 🛡️ Monitoring and Management🧐 ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ════ ⋆★⋆ ════ ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Top Player ⚔️ Performance Top 100, of the Best Players in the World 🛡️ | @martinaxo | 16-05-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/performance-top-100-of-the-best-players-in-the-world ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ════ ⋆★⋆ ════ ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Change Setup 1.- All Setups | @At_d0sA_fNLt_Laris | 28/04/2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/all-setups 2.- My Thoughs to all the discussions about Setup and Rating - @Empty_K3 | 28-04-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/my-thoughs-to-all-the-discussions-about-setup-and-rating-empty-k33.- ⚔️It's not Old Standard | it's not Omatamix🛡️ Poll: @martinaxo | 22-04-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/its-not-old-standard-its-not-omatamix 4.- Brsti Setup: 1.h3 c7 h12 Analysis | @LazyImp | 29-04-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/brsti-setup-1-h3-c7-h12-analysis 5.- A radical proposal / about the set-up | @Indipendenza | 27-04-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/a-radical-proposal-about-the-set-up 6.-Bsrti-invert might be the best setup | @empty_K3 | 25-04-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/bsrti-invert-might-be-the-best-setup 7.-Omatamix is boring? - I don't think so! | @empty_K3 | 02-05-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/omatamix-is-boring-i-dont-think-so 8.-What was wrong with Old Standard? | @daveborn | 02-05-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/what-was-wrong-with-old-standard9.-One Change Might Be All We Need - And It's Probably The Hardest One | 21-06-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/one-change-might-be-all-we-need-and-its-probably-the-hardest-onePeople who participated in this discussion Change Setup : 46 Players | Updated today 22-06-20224Play2KnightAt_d0sA_fNLt_LarisBabYagunbsrtibullfakecarlosgabriel1234ChessMasterGSChessyounglingChestnut924DarksquaremandavebornDoubleSpeedRocksElPolloLocoManempty_K3Fiat147GMdsgchess2020Green_Sleeveshest1805Hitsar_PrideHitsar_PrideicystunIllingworthIndipendenzajessezafirakosJustinD7LazyImplewis0428LiquidFyreLosChessquireMagicstephmartinaxoneoserbianProfBlundermasterRadonRobustMaplesamuelysfungShadower555Six_Pack_Of_FlabssljcelalsuryangodTanPrivateTheCheesePhoenixtommerrall949Typewriter44x-2333063318YouTube4playerChess▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ════ ⋆★⋆ ════ ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬📌 Poll Setup | Four Player Chess 📢https://www.chess.com/blog/martinaxo/poll-setup-four-player-chess147 votes | 12-07-2023 ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ════ ⋆★⋆ ════ ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Rating System 1.-Why is SFA Standard Now? @LosChessquire | 26-04-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/why-is-sfa-standard-now2.-🧐 Where are the players❓ ⚔️ Ranking System 🛡️Poll: @martinaxo | 26-04-2022 https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/where-are-the-players-ranking-system 3.-Return FFA to old scoring system of 2 winners @JustinD7 | 19-04-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/return-ffa-to-old-scoring-system-of-2-winners 4.-FFA rating calculation | @bnjboyd | more than 1 monthhttps://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/ffa-rating-calculation-1 5.- How the Rating System Works | @grable | 08-04-2022 https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/how-the-rating-system-works-3 6.-Why the FFA rating system should change | @liquid-sun | 14-05-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/why-the-ffa-rating-system-should-change 7.-A clear example of why the FFA rating system should changehttps://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/a-clear-example-of-why-the-ffa-rating-system-should-changePeople who participated in this discussion Rating System : 45 Players | Updated today 22-06-2022 liquid-sunfengqijianDocZombossmartinaxodavebornMaskedMadaraRadonjessezafirakosTypewriter44Elecdrag7Ferd_Jelly_Roll_MortonjessezafirakoszyviergrablerohithbalasljcelalLazyImprupkayakTheUltraTraparpitshiSinisterGaze4Play2Knightempty_K3LaMikkIndipendenzasiwenfuMagicstephChessMasterGSJustinD7spacebarBeautifulGooseTheCheesePhoenixYouTube4playerChessAt_d0sA_fNLt_LarisLosChessquire2718aChessMasterGSShannon_KhanChestnut924bnjboydneoserbianHSCCCalebBrownicystunDarksquaremanGrathieben ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ════ ⋆★⋆ ════ ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬Server 1.- Games Played / Disconnects @mogulskier82 | 29-04-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/games-played-disconnects 2.- The server @Indipendenza | 29-04-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/the-server-2 3.-i lost - 100 + to server lag @joshuapro2021 | 30-04-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/i-lost-100-to-server-lag 4.- Do the admins have a plan? | @SweeetDollaTea | 05-05-2022 https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/do-the-admins-have-a-plan 5.- The server needs to be fixed ASAP | @Sairentogeiza | 06-05-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/the-server-needs-to-be-fixed-asap ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ════ ⋆★⋆ ════ ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Letter 1.-The Harsh Reality of these Changes @Radon | 27-04-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/the-harsh-reality-of-these-changes 2.-Opinion Wanted, Here's Mine @Grathieben | 27-04-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/opinion-wanted-heres-mine 3.-⚔️ Cambios en la Plataforma de 4PC 🛡️ !? | Changes in the 4PC Platform !?⚔️ @martinaxo | 29-03-2022 https://www.chess.com/blog/martinaxo/cambios-en-la-plataforma-de-4pc-changes-in-the-4pc-platform 4.- A message | @Darksquareman | 21-04-22 https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/a-message-56 ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ════ ⋆★⋆ ════ ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Tournament 1.- Announcing the 2022 (Fourth) Online World 4 Player Chess FFA/Solo Championship (DISCUSSION) @fourplayerchess | 23-04-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/announcing-the-2022-fourth-online-world-4-player-chess-ffa-solo-championship-discussion 2.-New Standard Tournaments (Info & Discussion) @grable | 12-12-2021https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/new-standard-tournaments-info-discussion 3.- ⚔️New Tournament: "Modern FFA" 🛡️ Setup BSRTI | @martinaxo | 20-05-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/new-tournament-modern-ffa ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ════ ⋆★⋆ ════ ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Articles of interest Team Players 1.- Four Chess Players Fundamentals | @MoreMao | 10-01-2021 https://www.chess.com/blog/MoreMao/chess-fundamentals-for-four 2.-4pc Fundamentals: basic concepts (pre-strategy) |@MoreMao | 25-01-2021https://www.chess.com/blog/MoreMao/4pc-fundamentals-basic-concepts-pre-strategy 3.-Free for All in 4PC: Ideas in the Early Four-Player Phase | @GustavKlimtPaints | 16-07-2020https://www.chess.com/blog/GustavKlimtPaints/free-for-all-in-4pc-ideas-in-the-early-four-player-phase 4.-The art of betrayal in FFA 4 Player Chess | @liquid-sun | 07-09-2021https://www.chess.com/blog/liquid-sun/the-art-of-betrayal-in-ffa-4-player-chess 5.- My Thoughs to all the discussions about Setup and Rating - | @Empty_K3 | 28-04-2022 https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/my-thoughs-to-all-the-discussions-about-setup-and-rating-empty-k3 ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ════ ⋆★⋆ ════ ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Puzzle 1.- Teams Puzzle (Red to Move) | @LazyImp | 11-05-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/teams-puzzle-red-to-move 2.- FFA Puzzle #5 (The Only Bad Move) | @Radon | 02-05-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/ffa-puzzle-5-the-only-bad-move 3.- FFA Puzzle #6 (Most Material, Most Points, Most Muppet) | @Radon | 04-05-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/ffa-puzzle-6-most-material-most-points-most-muppet4.-Puzzle? | @Darksquareman | 01-06-2022 https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/puzzle-8489 ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ════ ⋆★⋆ ════ ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ History 1.- ⚔️ Chaturaji 📜 History and Modernity 🛡️Poll: | @martinaxo | 10-05-2022https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/chaturaji-history-and-modernity2.- FFA Rapid Leaderboard history | @rojitto | 12-07-2023https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/ffa-rapid-leaderboard-history 3.- 4pc FFA & Solo Championship & Tournament Resultshttps://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/4pc-ffa-solo-championship-tournament-results4.- ⚔️The True Power of the Elephant 🛡️ 📜 History V/S Modernity 🐘https://www.chess.com/blog/martinaxo/the-true-power-of-the-elephant-history-v-s-modernity5.- The Forgotten Feature - Variants on Chess.com https://www.chess.com/blog/ChessMasterGS/the-forgotten-feature-variants-on-chess-com ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ════ ⋆★⋆ ════ ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Rules 1.- Rules & Reporting | @GDII | 20-06-2019https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/rules-reporting ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ════ ⋆★⋆ ════ ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Top 100 The Best Players 4pc ⚔️ Performance Top 100, of the Best Players in the World 🛡️ | @martinaxo | 01-06-22https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/performance-top-100-of-the-best-players-in-the-world ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ════ ⋆★⋆ ════ ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬

The Forgotten Feature - Variants on Chess.com - Chess.com Hi everyone - with the merge of Variants and 4 Player Chess having been 1.5 years ago, and still not a lot of change, I decided to make an article detailing the event and some of the things that preceded it. My hope is that eventually it can reach the chess.com staff, but hopefully it can get to a wider audience than just ~100 people before it does so, so that awareness can be spread on the issues that I discuss. If you could give it a read (should only take around 10-15 minutes), that would be great. You might also learn some new things too...

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https://www.chess.com/variants/4-player-chess/game/51453382/363/3 I am not sure if this ever happened before with anyone but I just completed a new achievement of mating with king.

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This is the game I played worst, website is https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/4-player-chess

4 players fight fiercely and most of the pieces die. They need extra reinforcements outside but it was very difficult to enter the battlefield. Who can put their pieces in and win?

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playing dirty is popular on FFA, I've blocked so many but there is always more and more (and you get them on anon). aren't you guys strong enough to win playing with ethics? some just find it entertaining to play dirty. you find reasons to justify dirty game, some I can understand, but the result of the dirty game turns away strong non-dirty players, and brings on a bad reputation for this game that we love so much. If you are a winner, as any gamer should be, you only play your best to get the win, changing the elo made stuff worse, some play not to lose or even to make their opposite loss. and some even find it funny. you see so many "jajaja" people are enjoying seeing you hopeless... When high rated plays with lower-rated in a non-anon mode, it ends-up often as 3 v 1, this is dirty and it turns away strong players. play them on anon and you get to play with those you blocked (you don't want to play with them because they are dirty that is why you block them from the first place) Playing only to effect the winner, not to try to get the 1st (usually by attacking the one you dislike or helping your friend) is dirty, playing passive while the sides kill your opposite is dirty, "forcing" your opposite to give mate and then taking his q and go on to winning the game is dirty, I can go on and on guys, I dont think that if you were actually coming to my living room as friends that meet and play, you would play dirty like that, otherwise, I would never invite you again to my home right? well if we are playing together you are inside my life, and I still dont want to play with unfair dirty players. I'm a team player, a year ago I tried playing FFA for a while, it ended up me writing a subject like this one here and going back to team mode, now I tried to play again some FFA (got in top 10 both in solo and ffa) and again I have to say goodbye, like me, strong players will not play this mode and that's a shame. I will check back in a year to see if ffa, which is a new game that is being shaped like a baby now, is more of a pleasant community of chess players. All the best to all

https://www.chess.com/variants/4-player-chess/game/51080862/169/4 This game yellow had a totally winning position and lost it by one move.

I just played a game where me and another person both tied for second, and I lost rating but the other person gained, in all honesty, if it's a tie at least make it so both gain rating or both lose, if it's a tie one shouldn't lose that. Fix that, no context for that to happen

I have a variant but I can't set it in the "custom rules" so I posted it here for developers to code it P/S: This photo is for illustrative purposes only and cannot be actual!

If you want to flag/mark games of interest (whether your own games or other players') and look at them at some point later, what should you do? Is there a way to save/mark/flag games for yourself? Something like a "Favorite" button of some sort would be great but I'm looking for any other way available here, really. I think there used to be a way to generate at least game IDs and maybe that way games are later searchable but not sure it's still available.

Is there someone that takes forever to make a move?