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!!! it happen to me several times that a player type "/stop chat" at the first move, when any message is written. When we block the chat, is because there are teamming but here none has written any messages, and the chat is blocked by somebody without any logic reason It is happened to you also? I whant that this abitude stop and that we type "/stop chat" only if there are teamming

@spacebar We have a feature request that would work well with the upcoming World Championships, and it would be a welcomed feature by the 4 Player Chess League, where we schedule games every weekend. When inviting 4 players to a game, if they're not online at the same time, it's been challenging to start multiple games at once since we can only start 1 game at a time. It would be great if we could create a game, invite 4 players, and have the game start "Now" or have it start at a scheduled time when all 4 players click a Join Button. This game then shows up in the Lobby at the scheduled time, and the 4 players will see the "Join" button to start the game. This way, we won't have to wait for players to be online, and multiple games can be scheduled ahead of time. Just something simple like WordPress uses would work great.

In Chaturaji variant, I always get strong player on my right side and other strong player on my left. My front is a typically some new player who have no idea. when that happens my front player will dead first and I can't stop my right side player's attack. I will end up getting 3rd place. This paring system is not random and it is designed in the way that always disadvantage to high rated player. Can someone please fix this paring system.

Game wasn't decided one way or another and server restarted multiple times and the lucky person who had just moved won by all other 3 timing out. I'd post the link to the game but the entire F*ckin 4PC server is down for who knows how long.

must be part of the rules, any player who doesn't play to win, sec and resign will be banned.

The whole tentative or tacit agreement, and common knowledge, that because opposites will naturally gravitate toward acting as a team is not a good reason or excuse for not enforcing some basic fair play in FFA. When two players work together to eliminate another one right at the start of a game, before having had a chance to develop, let alone defend, this isn't a Free for All, it is teaming. I'd like to suggest that FFA's rules be updated with the following: A player may not be checkmated in the first 10 moves if it is the result of two or more players pieces. A player may not be checkmated in the first 10 moves if two or more players have accumulated 7 points worth of pieces individually, or 15 points combined from the player in question. If either rule is found to have been violated, it constitutes teaming, and violates fair basic fair play tenets. Game termination: The two players whose pieces are involved both lose points, and the game ends. Repeatedly ending games like this should have some incremental threshold enforced, such that the person can play Teams, but not FFA for some period of time. https://www.chess.com/legal/fair-play Interesting that the path for "Fair Play" includes "legal." To quote from it: "Do not get help from any other person, including parents, friends, coaches or another player" ... "if you intend to use assistance against your opponent, you must notify them beforehand" ... Obviously with teams, players know they're working against multiple other opponents. In FFA, you're playing against 3 other players, but there is not an explicit or implicit 3-on-1 or 2-on-1. However, the FFA rules say not to report implicit teaming, and only provides for known, explicit reasons and rationale (concrete terms, such as begging for points, or coordination in chat). This is despite the acknowledgment that opposites will gravitate toward acting as a team. The above rules give all 4 players of 4PC, playing FFA, the opportunity to develop and defend into or toward a mid-game, and puts the brakes on players who take advantage of the BS lame-duck, lackadaisical, lassiez-fair attitudes of admins and management. Considering all of the changes made, on such a regular basis, implementing some basic rules to ensure fair play in FFA doesn't seem like it'll make much of a difference. It will upset those who like to take advantage of FFA to act as a team at the start, for a while. Those players will stop playing and be gone, or they'll adapt and get with the program. But I'd wager there will be a great deal many more people who would be happy with improved rules that get rid of or discourage unfair play (implicit teaming, or team tactics) at the outset of an FFA game. Pretend for a moment that instead of 4PC, we just call it 3PC. Or maybe just 2PC. Or maybe that's putting too fine a point on it. Why do we need 4PC or FFA if the objective is to assist each other in eliminating one player right away? So we just eliminate one. Thus, 3PC. And since two players in 3PC will naturally gravitate toward teaming, then we just eliminate another one, and call it 2PC. Or Chess on a larger board.

I found Crazyhouse mode in 4pc

It's been a while since people started requesting this, but it's definitely something we need. Random people seem to join clubs out of nowhere with only the intention to troll and waste everyone's time by posting nonsense topics unrelated to 4pc or variants. I'm not naming names here, but you know who you are. Would it really hurt to just make someone, maybe a 4pc/variants admin, or elect someone to be a forum mod? I'd like to hear your opinions on this.

Let me just say- I'm not trying to make this a cheating forum complaint or whatnot but I must say... I don't know if it's just me but whenever I play 4PC it always seems like my opponent is using a cheating bot thing judging by all of the brilliant moves they make. Is it possible to do such a thing?? (I'm new to chess.com in general so I'm still trying to figure things out... I apologize if this forum question is dumb)

(Yes, this is different from my last post, look through the entire thing)

I need 3 players to test a 4pc custom position, help me out with that?

1500 rated chess is kind of insane lol https://www.chess.com/variants/4-player-chess/game/29564603

https://www.chess.com/variants/custom/game/29537538 lol

Hello friends, I do not know what's on and if you see the same as me. But it looks like there are MUCH LESS games available than even just 2-3 weeks ago (not to mention before the March catastrophe). Even if I look at ALL STANDARD GAMES, ALL timings (but hyper), and with NO rating limitation, I see no games right now for instance, outside of the one I launched (and nobody has joined so far). When there are games, these are often with no rating limits (and therefore purely BS), or very low rated. I've lost about 250 points in Rapid FFA rating strictly because of that: by mere weariness joined eventually a 1900+ game for instance, so players play nonsense, attack in front, accuse you of cheating if you cooperate with the opp' and promise to report about you for cheating , play for 2nd and ruin your games, and quite often you're targetted because of a even modest 2200-2300 rating and eventually are 3rd or 4th. It's simple, since the reform I dropped by 200 places in the ladder just because of this phenomenon. And if I oblige myself not to play games under let's say 2200, there are far too few. What happened? Do you see the same? Right now: "No open challenges" outside of just ONE (mine, a 2000+ 1 2 FFA). WTF?! It used to be dozens of games beforehand if you put rated, standard, Rapid+Blitz+Bullet, no rating limitation.

I would like to suggest an improvement to game lobby. I would like to filter only anonymous games. It would be great if this feature can be added. Thanks!

So I load up 4p crazyhouse and get slapped in the face with ducks. WTD??????

Some people from the Internet keep saying that 4 Player Chess is imbalanced. I'm not sure so. Write your arguments about balance there. Here is mine. Moderator sent me about 60.000 of 2200+-rated FFA games. So, here is statistics. Red is winner: 15917 Red 1st Blue 2nd: 3302 Red 1st Yellow 2nd: 9409 Red 1st Green 2nd: 3512Blue 1st Red 2nd: 3622 Blue is winner: 14554 Blue 1st Yellow 2nd: 3169 Blue 1st Green 2nd: 8020Yellow 1st Red 2nd: 9299 Yellow 1st Blue 2nd: 3475 Yellow is winner: 15821 Yellow 1st Green 2nd: 3314Green 1st Red 2nd: 3197 Green 1st Blue 2nd: 8212 Green 1st Yellow 2nd: 3680 Green is winner: 14818 So, statistically, game is more or less balanced while all 4 players are active, then in 3-player stage chances for the player in-between-two-others are 2,5 times (or 60%) lesser.

Ladies and gentlemen of our fine 4 player chess club, and hopefully soon to be the developers of this lovely website chess.com, I bring a new variant to the table. Card chess. Now, I'm not sure if you all are familiar with the concept of no stress chess, but this is fairly close to that. A virtual deck of cards distributes 5 cards to each player, the cards containing pieces (queen, pawn etc.) and in order to move, you must play one of your cards and move the matching piece. It is always capture the king, as you could play a card and put the king in check, but never see the card to kill the king with that piece ever again. Now this in and of itself would be a complete overhaul of chess and add a spicy splash of randomness to the game. But you think that's all? Oh, heck no The same ladies and gentlemen as last time, I present to you ability cards These cards are in a separate hand, with a seperate deck. Each card uses energy, which increases by one after your opponent moves. There are three main types of cards: Aggressive/attacking cards These are single use cards that modify the game in a big way. Cards such as Resurrect-A card that allows you to respawn one of your pieces onto your half of the board Convert-A card that forces a knight, bishop, or pawn to switch sides. and my personal favorite, the rocket launcher. Your king gets a nuclear missile with the movements of a queen, that explodes in a plus shape, wiping out any and all pieces in the explosion. Obviously with fun sound effects, of course. Sabotage cards Not much to explain here, these cards limit opponent movement and use of abilities, or switch around their decks to destroy any plans they had been making. Effect cards These cards last until certain conditions are met, or something is played against them to void their effects Ideas for these cards include Call of Nature-This card permanently transforms all queens into wildebeests, a terrifying fairy piece that it a combination of queen and knight. Shield-A card that adds a protective shield over your king, preventing him from dying once, and can stack. This would also be amazing to put into four player chess, making it even more chaotic and confusing. Anyway that's my proposal, and I really think this would be an absolutely amazing addition to chess.com, and would be extremely popular if given the right amount of attention.