A TALLY OF DATABASE-USERS & NON-USERS

I use SCID with a database of 3,000,000 games.  I also use the opening explorer which shows me a nifty chart of the most significant lines from the searched position.

OdessaChess wrote:

Mr. MainStreet, perhaps we can also have a vote as to who gave the best argument for their position. Perhaps we can ask the non-users to choose who among the users they think gave the best argument and vice-versa.

Good idea! Please cast your votes...

(1) the other side's poster's name... (2) why so?... (3) your own side's poster's name but not your own name - but no more elaboration on the why...

For simplication purposes, here's a sample:

(1) ABCDEFG

(2) touched on both the philosophy, mathematical and psychology angles

(3) RSTUV

anaxagoras wrote:

I use SCID with a database of 3,000,000 games.  I also use the opening explorer which shows me a nifty chart of the most significant lines from the searched position.

USERS - 54, NON-USERS - 49

Non User 

alec94x wrote:

Non User 

USERS - 54, NON-USERS -50

USERS	NON-USERS
ericmittens  xMenace  exiledcanuck  The_Pitts  artfizz  mauerblume  PerfectGent  draco_alpine  Sharukin  Gonnosuke  ozzie_c_cobblepot  Billium248  Tycho  CzarWithinMoons  adamWheatley  MonsterCat  uritbon  wormstar  Beelzebub666  Evil_Homer  Marshal_Dillon  MrWizard  AlecKeen  vsarun  lithium11  Duffer1965  ADK  meserole  chrish  cirrus45  Nimzo33  dwaxe  jonnyjupiter  johnjacobson  Zug  psihrishi  normajeanyates  nickel1356  ih8sens  mxdplay4  BigAlex  MM78  aabbccdd  TheAOD  tr8drboi  OdessaChess  hondoham  KillaBeez phishcake5  rpann4321  Ray_Brooks onehandgann  MasterPatzer  alec94x anaxagoras	MainStreet  gumpty  hmcgrier  tworthington  fanat  jdthompson  LOB  FHansen  Mebeme  Hnsly  Olimar  Tijaro  ntrafer  chqm8  bgianis  thegab03  4268N8703W  chessdadx2  qtsii  TehTooya  shiggsyo  pdmura  spurg  Rael  NeuroGuy  Hendrik77  RandellC  starwraith  muggles  Jythier  Maximus_Minimus  BillyIdle  Am3692  Sojkicz  CATAHOULA  bruhudson  Upabushtrack  shuttlechess92  Sparta amateurograpy  MBickley  pawnsolo2 JPF917  chesslife  firestare500 MolotovRuss  Mm40  fullmetaldave  alec94x
55	49

Main Street and Artfizz, I'm on the table twice as a non-user.

hmcgrier wrote: MainStreet and Artfizz, I'm on the table twice as a non-user.

Thanks, hmcgrier. I've subtracted you from the table and from the count (so post #277 should NOW be correct).

I love you all,for now I'm on the right side of the law,thank you guys!

USERS - 55, NON-USERS - 49... as artfizz-corrected

What is the point of playing your games without figuring out your moves by your own, I mean it's you that should have the fun not the computer (: 

Non-user 

I am a non-user. I really don't see the point in using such stuff during a game. By all means use them afterwards or for training to improve your chess game but I am disappointed that some of my opponents are using a database/books during a game.

Correspondance chess, turn chess, call it what you want but it's primary purpose is learning; to improve ones skill for OTB. It is not about winning or losing.

I use a database so as to practice and sharpen my opening knowledge. The games here give me that opportunity and then I can let go of the database once the game enters a direction where I can sharpen my middle game skills forward.

I don't care if I win or lose, that is not my objective, my aim is to improve my opening knowledge combined with improving my ability to come up with a correct plan of action based on the direction the game has taken.

In reading through the postings, there seem to be, broadly-speaking, 6 types:

Bolla wrote:

What is the point of playing your games without figuring out your moves by your own, I mean it's you that should have the fun not the computer (: 

Non-user 

USERS - 55, NON-USERS -50

robert63 wrote:

I am a non-user. I really don't see the point in using such stuff during a game. By all means use them afterwards or for training to improve your chess game but I am disappointed that some of my opponents are using a database/books during a game.

USERS - 55, NON-USERS -51

Creg wrote:

Correspondance chess, turn chess, call it what you want but it's primary purpose is learning; to improve ones skill for OTB. It is not about winning or losing.

I use a database so as to practice and sharpen my opening knowledge. The games here give me that opportunity and then I can let go of the database once the game enters a direction where I can sharpen my middle game skills forward.

I don't care if I win or lose, that is not my objective, my aim is to improve my opening knowledge combined with improving my ability to come up with a correct plan of action based on the direction the game has taken.

USERS - 56, NON-USERS -51

artfizz wrote: In reading through the postings, there seem to be, broadly-speaking, 6 types: NON-USERS
Non-Users
non-users
users
Users
USERS
OTB-diehards who reject non-OTB as cheating
Unaware of the distinction between CC and OTB / unaware the facilities exist / might consider for future use
Tried above-OTB facilities and decided against them
Lightweight above-OTB facility users (Analysis Board)
Occasional DB Users (Game Explorer)
Heavy DB Users

Mainstreet is a "non-user" then.

God,them damn users are abusers!

MainStreet wrote: It's interesting to note that "some" Users seem to be "hot-headed" on this topic while non-users are rather cool about it. And isn't it a wonder that a simple tally request can cause some people to even adapt a stance of "looking for a fight", when they're not even forced to join in? :)) Cool it, fellow-posters, it's just a voluntary tally. (",)

To me, it seemed the other way round! A number of non-users were arguing from a position of being unaware of the OTB/CC distinction, and that the bulk of chess on this site is CC-based. Some non-users were arguing that CC-facilities should be removed from everyone. No users were arguing that CC-facilities should be mandatory.